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Subject: RE: ellipsis
From: Suzette Seveny <sseveny@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:06:07 -0500
Organization: Pet Valu Canada Inc.
I don't believe that this is merely a stylistic issue. Rules of grammar and punctuation differ depending on the country for which you are writing. In Canada for example, we do not automatically default to the American grammar and punctuation rules. Our schools (and I know because I recently checked) teach grammar and punctuation rules similar to the UK. All punctuation is placed outside of quotation marks, unless the punctuation is part of the quoted materials. I write for both Canadian and American audiences (different material), so I try to stay aware of each country's style and idiosyncrasies. Suzette Seveny Markham, Ontario, Canada email@example.com or firstname.lastname@example.org ------------------------------------------------------------------ DISCLAIMER: Any opinions expressed are MY opinions. Feel free to have your own. Let's agree to disagree But Please - Don't Flame Me. On Wednesday, December 09, 1998 10:44 AM, Thomas Regner [SMTP:email@example.com] wrote: > Snavely, Deborah wrote: > > > Can anyone here confirm whether switching to the UK dictionary flags > > incorrectly used closed punctuation? (Closed "word," punctuation seems to > > be > > more a US default style, while open "word", punctuation is, I'm told, a UK > > default style.) > > Much debate has raged over this, especially amongst editors, over the years. > The Chicago Manual of Style, favored by many, specifies enclosing both > periods (UK: "full-stop") and commas in U.S. usage. All other punctuation, > according to the CMoS, is to be placed outside of the quotation marks. > > There are problems that arise, of course, when quoting precise lines > of code, for example, where using a tailing comma inside the quotes > will not work if it is assumed that everything bordered by the quotation > marks should be included. It is mostly a stylistic issue where many > believe that putting periods and commas outside of the quotation > marks is ugly. Many companies have style guides which specify > which style of punctuation to use. This is usually an arbitrary > decision based solely upon concensus of opinion. > > And so the battle rages. Some say that the only reason the U.S. > adopted the "closed punctuation" method (your terminology) is > because we in the U.S., having won the war, had therefore won > the right to modify the language -- a decision which may have > been borne of a desire to add insult to injury. Pure speculation... > > Best, > > -- Tom > > > ** To unsubscribe, send a message to firstname.lastname@example.org ** > ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. ** ** To unsubscribe, send a message to email@example.com ** ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. **